weialala leia!

[ontology]

So, I've realised an interesting fact about myself. Most of you will probably not be surprised.

When I enter a new fandom, or am rediscovering an old one, I attempt to connect it to Eliot somehow. Um, yes. While I was waiting to get sleepy last night, I paged through my Complete Eliot and decided that Angel (so far the most likely candidate for Elioting) might find certain passages of Ash-Wednesday and The Hollow Men rather apt. A bit of Rhapsody on a Windy Night, too. Um, yes. I have a feeling it is too late; therapy cannot do me any good now. (But just look at them, will you? I mean really.) And hey,

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow

-- reminds me of Simon Tam rather a lot. Oh dear. I haven't really found anyone in any fandom who suits The Waste Land, although I can see River quoting:

A woman drew her long black hair out tight     
And fiddled whisper music on those strings     
And bats with baby faces in the violet light     
Whistled, and beat their wings
And crawled head downward down a blackened wall     
And upside down in air were towers     
Tolling reminiscent bells, that kept the hours     
And voices singing out of empty cisterns and exhausted wells.

And most of you lot know that T.S. Eliot is Remus Lupin's favourite poet. (Shut up. He is. Look at Preludes! And Prufrock! They were practically written about him! And, um, I actually possess about half a draft of an entire Remus-fic based on Rhapsody on a Windy Night. Yes.) And that Four Quartets was written after Mr Eliot took a spin in the TARDIS (definitely post-Time War, because there are references all over the place). And ressie_noldo and I decided once that the Weialala Leia are an alien race, but that's beside the point.

So, this is Banui's brain on, er, madness. Yes. Going away now.

(Stuff about Life later, maybe. I've been having a few days half-out of the world, which is nice, but I also feel about three times as absent-minded as usual, and I've always been terrifically absent-minded.)

Comments

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

Hm. Yes, definitely. I would also agree with you that Frost is too...uncomplicated, or something...for Angel, although I Have Been One Acquainted with the Night (http://www.internal.org/view_poem.phtml?poemID=119) is rather apt. (I still like "Rhapsody on a Windy Night" better, for what it's worth, but still.) And wow, I sort of can't conceive having that much hatred toward a poet... >_<

Also, we read Louis Macneice's Bagpipe Music (http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/bagpipe-music/) for class today and it's overall very...weird, but mostly the good kind of weird. Anyway I can totally see River quoting this part:

John MacDonald found a corpse, put it under the sofa,
Waited till it came to life and hit it with a poker,
Sold its eyes for souvenirs, sold its blood for whiskey,
Kept its bones for dumbbells to use when he was fifty.

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

I was thinking of "I Have Been One Acquainted With the Night", yep. Also I have a feeling that Angelus would read Charles Baudelaire and his ilk -- crazy morbid French poets! There's a bit of Baudelaire in my World Poetry compilation, and it's rather like Eliot on steroids. Some of it is very beautiful (particularly for those of us who enjoy gothic imagery), and some is -- morbid, as I said. And somewhat deranged. (Also French. Ha ha.) I mean, really, how does a vampire spend the centuries when they're not -- wreaking havoc and suchlike? Clearly, they must read poetry. (I would. :p)

Not only can I see River quoting that, I can see her singing it, in a sing-song, absent-minded sort of way.

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

Bwahaha. Sorting is awesome fun. River and Simon would be Ravenclaws, Mal would be a Gryffindor, Jayne I might call a Slytherin just because of the whole mercenary thing, Kaylee's probably a Hufflepuff...and, hm, I would probably put Buffy at least in Gryffindor, Willow and Giles obviously in Ravenclaw, and...huh. Not sure about anyone else. I'm kind of inclined to put Xander in Gryffindor too just because he's kind of impulsive and is really good at putting his foot squarely in his mouth, but I'm not sure that he's particularly brave...well, no, I guess he is in his own way. Something. Not sure. No idea where I'd put Cordelia, and not overly sure about Angel either. I suppose I might actually call him a Slytherin, but whether he's a good or bad Slytherin of course depends on, you know, whether he's Angelus or Angel.

OH OH. I had the best crossover idea of sorts after I watched "Halloween" (which was another seriously cool premise, I thought, even though I didn't exactly like the whole "women any further back than maybe 30 years ago were total wimps" idea), which mostly stemmed from the fact that I considered going as Ten for Halloween and am definitely doing so for Senshi-con in a couple weeks. Which of course made me think, well, if somebody like me found the parts for a Ten costume in a shop helmed by somebody doing the same thing as Ethan, would that person turn into the actual Doctor? Which would be...pretty cool for a number of reasons. Plus he'd actually be helpful in, you know, saving the day. It couldn't exactly be a crossover like sticking Ten into that episode, since it couldn't happen before Ten existed on TV and somebody would want to dress up as him, but eh, it could still be fun.

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

Sorting is the best thing to do when you can't sleep or find yourself in a long line or in a waiting room without iPod or paper. :D Inara's the only Firefly character I really can't place -- well, her and Book; I can't tell if he's a Gryffindor or a Hufflepuff. Zoe is a Gryffindor and Wash is probably a Hufflepuff. The problem with Buffy is that nearly everyone seems to turn out Gryffindor. Very irritating of them. Willow has definite Gryffindor-ness, but I stick her in Ravenclaw because somebody needs to be not-in-Gryffindor. Angel, you're right, is a difficult one. Angelus certainly fits the Slytherin bill -- I would assume most vampires do, as their primary goal seems to be their own pleasure, safety, and entertainment, and most of them seem quite ambitious in one way or another -- but I'm not really seeing the Slytherin in Angel. He's much more self-sacrificing (and, okay, self-flagellating) than ambitious, and while he's intelligent and resourceful, I wouldn't describe him as cunning. (Nice word, that. I should use it more often.)

Hee! Yes indeed that'd be a fun crossover, although it'd be difficult to make it into an actual crossover as such, since the time-lines not matching up quite right would make it difficult to have any actual Buffy characters in other than Ethan or some Ethan-like bloke. (Though I suppose someone could always dress up as Four, since he's the Pop Culture Reference Doctor, so to speak.) ...Actually, pretty much anything involving the Doctor playing around in another fandom is slated for awesomeness potential. *nods*

even though I didn't exactly like the whole "women any further back than maybe 30 years ago were total wimps" idea

To be fair, wimpiness was bred into and expected of (wealthier) women of the eighteenth century. :p And pre-vampire Angel, as you may or may not know from your cheating ways, was not exactly the sort of bloke who the more intelligent women would generally come into prolonged contact with.

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

Also I have a feeling that Angelus would read Charles Baudelaire and his ilk

...Dude. When you said that, did you know anything at all about the AtS episode "She"? Because in that ep, not only does Angel point Baudelaire out in a painting and talk about him, he also quotes him and heavily implies that he met the guy.

Fandom psychic much?

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. NO. I TOTALLY DIDN'T. MY FANDOM PSYCHIC STATUS IS TOTALLY VINDICATED. *hyperventilates*

Blimey, and I really wouldn't put it past Baudelaire to hobnob with vampires, either. Anybody mentioned the Romantics yet? Cos, you know, those vampire wannabe kids in "Lie to Me"? The mass-produced, less talented, poorer, less famous versions of Shelley & Friends.

*is pretty much dead now*