why not to watch "angel" late at night post-caffeine

[ontology]

So, I've decided deduced that sometime during the period in which Angel first moves to L.A. and is getting drunk a lot due to mopeage, he meets the Doctor in a bar, and they have a few beers and angst about the downsides of semi-immortality and the blonde young women who are no longer in their lives. (Also they probably save the world, completely by accident, and possibly in a manner that necessitates the quoting of "The Hollow Men".)

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

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[wanderlight.livejournal.com]

Yes. Yes indeed, I know it to be true and bow down to your superior knowledge of these things. Also the mention of The Hollow Men is very tempting. :)

[mermaidrain.livejournal.com]

LOL! That is TOO funny. And I can totally see that. ;)

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

*sporfle*

Yup. Totally true. And I will bother you until you write this.

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

DRAT YOU. Then you'll have to supply the Thing To Save The World From, cos I've no idea.

Angel would find Ten SO ANNOYING at first, it would be hilarious. (Angel and Nine, though. Trading leather jacket stories into the wee hours of the morning.)

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

Hm. Well...yes. That would be a problem since I am woefully inadequate at Plot.

He WOULD. Oh man. I would pay good money to see that. Actually, we should have Nine show up at some point during Angel's life--and yeah, they'd probably get along great, depending on when...Nine might harass Angel about brooding and not doing anything, but otherwise, yeah, and then Ten would show up later, and Angel would be all "...who are you? What is your problem?"

Also also--the Doctor definitely knows about the Buffyverse somehow or other, because "The Wish" and "I Will Remember You"? Would have created huge ripples in time that he would have sensed. Which is to say that at least the Doctor would know about the Wishverse and Angel's sacrifice. (On a semi-related note, what do you think about "Father's Day"? Did the Doctor and Rose remember it, or didn't they? I like to think they did, since--well, if it works on the same "eye of the storm" principle the Valiant did, they should've, and...anyway I don't like the idea of either of them forgetting something so momentous.)

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

Well, so I am: hence the problem. I'm not sure if our combined woeful plot inadequacy will give us both the strength to press onward, or suck us into a great black hole of plotlessness, but I suppose it's worth a try? :p

Okay, so, new theory: Whistler is secondary; it was NINE AND ROSE who convinced Angel to Go Forth And Do Good. Yep. And Angel would be all, "You're not human," and Nine would be all, "Well, neither are you," and Angel would be like, "...OKAY." and Rose would be all, "...what?" And then Rose gets grabbed by vampires or something, I don't know. Maybe the Doctor gets grabbed by vampires, cos Time Lord blood is either utterly toxic or kind of magical. Maybe Angel has to use the sonic screwdriver. And then there's rescuing and whatnot and Angel feels less broody and goes off and meets Buffy and suchlike.

Fast-forward several years, and woeful angst-ridden Ten, who has been popping in and out of bars and pubs across time and space (he rattles on about some of them because he is anything if not indiscreet and nobody believes him anyway because he is of course EVEN MORE MAD when drunk), happens to pop into the one Angel frequents, and they happen to sit near each other, or something, and Ten's all "I know you!" and Angel's like, "...um, no, you really don't", and Ten's like, "nope, you're that vampire bloke, now that was an interesting day," and Angel's like "...". And somehow eventually they get onto the subject of why they are both miserably drunk in a bar and they angst a lot and say things like "life is very long" and "between the motion and the act falls the Shadow" and then Some Massive Bad Thing Happens and they go out and stop it. After that I really don't know, except that Angel finds Ten completely irritating and the stripes are sort of blinding (but maybe they could swap hair gel recommendations?).

...I worry myself sometimes.

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

Also also--the Doctor definitely knows about the Buffyverse somehow or other, because "The Wish" and "I Will Remember You"? Would have created huge ripples in time that he would have sensed.

OMG, HE TOTALLY DOES. In fact, he probably wanders over to, you know, check on things, make sure time is moving along correctly, all that. I wonder if Giles' Watcher books have anything about the Mysterious Man in the Blue Box. Maybe he and Martha can have an adventure when he's checking on things. He'd be so casual about it -- "Oh, it's a Hellmouth. Centre of mystical convergence and all that." Martha: "...". Maybe he can use the timey-wimey device. Buffy and Willow and Xander catch him snooping around outside the school testing things with it, or something. And he and Giles could have a nice conversation about whether or not magic is science poorly understood.

Heh. I watched "Blink" today, and the Weeping Angels? Would totally fit into the Buffyverse.

what do you think about "Father's Day"? Did the Doctor and Rose remember it, or didn't they?

I tend to think they do -- it just seems too weird to do things and then not remember doing them. Time reverses and you forget, okay, but what if you're the one doing the reversing? I mean, they all remember the Year That Never Was, yeah? (Who all does remember that, anyway? I only watched "Last of the Time Lords" once, and that was a long time ago -- the Doctor and Martha and Jack, for sure, and I get the impression that Martha's parents and Tish do, but I can't remember why they'd be included in the remembering. I hope Martha's parents remember, cos they got back together, and that was sweet.)

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

I think it was everyone on the Valiant--it wasn't so much a matter of having time-traveled as it was that the ship itself was the eye of the storm or whatever. Basically the whole time-reversal thing went on around it, but the ship itself and everyone on it had actually experienced The Year That Wasn't and therefore remembered. (And yeah, Martha's parents definitely did--Mrs. Jones was originally going to shoot Saxon for it, remember, saying that "it still happened," and the fact that the whole family had gone through all this was part of Martha's reason for leaving the Doctor.)

[safebox.livejournal.com]

You win, so very much. *giggles*

[suangelita.livejournal.com]

Stop watching "Angel", you evil woman... :P

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

*smiles beatifically* The episodes were sent to me. I had a moral obligation to watch them. (Anyway if you watch them with Roberto I won't beeee there. ^-^)


...Dang, I hate Angel's moustache. KILL IT WITH FIIIRE.

[suangelita.livejournal.com]

I thought you liked it when you first saw it.

You're just evil.

AAANGGEEELL! Are you squealing for me at all appropriate places?

I miss Angel... *siiiigh*

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

No, I liked it in theory before I knew it existed. Then when he did get facial hair it looked like someone glued a dead caterpillar to his upper lip. Eew.

Yep. I totally am. *beams*

Uh, yes. Absolutely. Rather too much, I'm afraid. I nearly bit my hand off at the wrist last night, cos GUESS WHAT OPENS THE THIRD EPISODE OF ANGEL? Yeah -- Spike's bit of narration. Everyone was asleep, so I was trying not to make funny noises. Hence the fist in the mouth: hence the pain and the bite marks. Uh-huh. And I've gotten to S2 in my iPod-watching, and, uh, SQUEALING AHOY. :p

[midenianscholar.livejournal.com]

Unrelated: Oh my! Ohhh my! I was just looking at a friend's journal entry, and she linked to this quiz, and--and--and--there you were! One of the pictures for the results is YOU! It's the picture of you reading that I took up in VA--at the horsieplacewhosenameescapesme. I about died. Wasn't expecting that. ^-^

http://www.quizilla.com/users/LothSilme/quizzes/Your%20Period%20Drama%20Life%20-For%20Girls%20%28Lovely%20pictures%2C%20very%20long%20and%20detailed%29

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

Chincoteague, darling. ;D

Goodness, how very odd. :D I seem to be getting around! (Wow, my hair. Heh. It's so short, and yet so long!)

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

Hello!

midenianscholar directed me here, since she's informed me that the gorgeous picture used in the above quiz is of you! (I'm linking directly to the photo HERE (http://images.quizilla.com/L/LO/LOT/LothSilme/1201682538_nsFederica.jpg) for you, just in case) I had fallen in love with that photo before our mutual friend told me where it came from. ;-)

So, I am bugging you to ask your permission if I may please icon you?

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

Oh, absolutely! I'd be honoured to be iconned! *doffs cap*

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

Oh, yay! Thank you very much! :-D

[take-a-sadsong.livejournal.com]

SIXPENCE NONE THE RICHER IS GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!!!!!!1!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

this is fantastic!!!! XDDD

[faeriemaiden.livejournal.com]

SERIOUSLY?! GORBLIMEY, COULD I BE MORE PSYCHED?! I was always so disappointed that I never got to see them live before they broke up. Though Leigh Nash has been doing some really neat stuff (http://www.amazon.com/Fauxliage/dp/B000SQKZOW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1205368383&sr=8-1) on her own.


OMG, AND A CHRISTMAS ALBUM. *spins* I AM ABSOLUTELY THRILLED. THRILLED, I TELL YOU.

[take-a-sadsong.livejournal.com]

EEE! I didn't know Leigh had made another record! I have Blue on Blue, which is really pretty, but I didn't know she had a new record out.

I actually haven't heard much from them sadly, but now I think I'll go explore their music some more. :)

but I'm off to have my brain cells killed by watching American Idol (hurray! It's honestly a good season this year, I like practically all of them. :])

[lady-moriel.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Fauxliage is a collaboration between Leigh and...Delerium, I'm pretty sure. It's gorgeous. Depressing, but gorgeous. Very ethereal.